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Summary of cash receipts and disbursements, Nov. 10, 1934, to June 30, 1941

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Summary statement of income and expense, Nov. 10, 1934, to June 30, 1941

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Financial statistics of Title II projects as of June 30, 1941

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Table showing costs per dwelling unit and per room, based on the over-all costs for each project and on the estimated dwelling structural costs for

each project

[Prepared Nov. 25, 1941, by Finance and Accounts Office]

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1 Administrative procedure for counting rooms under Title II program differs from other programs by adding half-rooms. This decreases estimated cost per room. Figures showing comparative cost per room for all projects taking into account half-rooms.

3 Title I program figures are total actual costs. All projects completed (data on commercial projects same as submitted for previous hearings). Hopkins Place-remodeled houses represent remodeling costs only; no new construction.

& Title II program figures are latest available estimated figures. Final costs not in on any project.

Langston built by Public Works Administration Housing Division. Dwelling structural cost figure not available.

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Mr. WOODRUM. That is a very interesting statement, Mr. Ihlder. Mr. FITZPATRICK. Any of the money appropriated here for your personnel that are doing work under title II is not reflected in this appropriation?

Mr. IHLDER. No. The two things are kept quite distinct on our books.

DEFENSE HOUSING

Mr. FITZPATRICK. With reference to this building that is going up at Sixteenth Street off of Meridian Park, is that with your money? Mr. IHLDER. No.

Mr. FITZPATRICK. It is a defense housing project, is it not?

Mr. IHLDER. Yes.

Mr. FITZPATRICK. To take care of certain people in the District? Mr. IHLDER. Yes.

Mr. FITZPATRICK. The buildings you are putting up, whom do they take care of?

Mr. IHLDER. They take care of those who are described in the Lanham Act.

May I make a preliminary statement in answer to your first question? The Defense Housing Coordinator makes a finding of what is necessary. Then he allocates that as between private enterprise and Government agencies. The buildings you have described are going to be financed, as I understand it, by the Defense Homes Corporation which lends money at interest and expects to get its money back. That is entirely separate.

Mr. FITZPATRICK. To whom do they loan money?

Mr. IHLDER. I do not know exactly. They may loan it to a private individual or

Mr. FITZPATRICK. To a Government agency or to a private individual?

Mr. IHLDER. I believe so, but I do not speak with knowledge. I understand this is to a private agency. It is a straight loan, with interest, to be repaid.

Mr. FITZPATRICK. Those alley dwellings that were first put up-yon went in there first to clear up some of the slums, was not that the idea? Mr. IHLDER. Yes, sir; that was our basic purpose.

Mr. FITZPATRICK. How are you getting along in that direction? Mr. IHLDER. May I answer your other question first?

Mr. FITZPATRICK. I am very much interested in that program. Mr. IHLDER. The houses that we build for defense are financed with money secured under the Lanham Act, and the Lanham Act contains a definition of a defense worker. The definition practically limits a defense worker for our houses to Army and Navy enlisted personnel and civilian personnel employed on a reservation or military post.

Mr. WOODRUM. How are you building those houses, Mr. Ihlder, by contract?

Mr. IHLDER. Yes. All of our houses are built by contract, let to the lowest bidder, or on a negotiated contract.

Mr. WOODRUM. A negotiated, lump-sum contract?

Mr. IHLDER. Yes.

Mr. FITZPATRICK. None of that comes out of the alley-dwelling fund whatever?

Mr. IHLDER. No; that is entirely separate.

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