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JACK BROOKS, Texas, Chairman L. H. FOUNTAIN, North Carolina

FRANK HORTON, New York JOHN E. MOSS, California

JOHN N. ERLENBORN, Illinois DANTE B. FASCELL, Florida

JOHN W. WYDLER, New York WILLIAM S. MOORHEAD, Pennsylvania CLARENCE J. BROWN, Ohio BENJAMIN S. ROSENTHAL, New York PAUL N. MCCLOSKEY, JR., California FERNAND J. ST GERMAIN, Rhode Island GARRY BROWN, Michigan DON FUQUA, Florida

CHARLES THONE, Nebraska JOHN CONYERS, JR., Michigan

JOEL PRITCHARD, Washington LEO J. RYAN, California

ROBERT W. KASTEN, JR., Wisconsin CARDISS COLLINS, Illinois

THOMAS N. KINDNESS, Ohio JOHN L BURTON, California

TOM CORCORAN, Illinois
RICHARDSON PREYER, North Carolina DAN QUAYLE, Indiana
MICHAEL HARRINGTON, Massachusetts ROBERT S. WALKER, Pennsylvania
ROBERT F. DRINAN, Massachusetts

ARLAN STANGELAND, Minnesota
BARBARA JORDAN, Texas
GLENN ENGLISH, Oklahoma
ELLIOTT H. LEVITAS, Georgia
DAVID W. EVANS, Indiana
ANTHONY MOFFETT, Connecticut
ANDREW MAGUIRE, New Jersey
LES ASPIN, Wisconsin
HENRY A. WAXMAN, California
JACK HIGHTOWER, Texas
JOHN W. JENRETTE, JR., South Carolina
FLOYD J. FITHIAN, Indiana
MICHAEL T. BLOUIN, Iowa
PETER H. KOSTMAYER, Pennsylvania
TED WEISS, New York

WILLIAM M. JONES, General Counsel

JOHN E. MOORE, Staf Administrator
WILLIAM H. COPENHAVER, A 88ociate Counsel

LYNNE HIGGINBOTHAM, Clerk
RICHARD L. THOMPSON, Minority Staff Director

LEGISLATION AND NATIONAL SECURITY SUBCOMMITTEE

JACK BROOKS, Texas, Chairman JOHN E. MOSS, California

FRANK HORTON, New York
BENJAMIN S. ROSENTHAL, New York JOHN N. ERLENBORN, Illinois
DON FUQUA, Florida

JOEL PRITCHARD, Washington
WILLIAM S. MOORHEAD, Pennsylvania
MICHAEL HARRINGTON, Massachusetts
DANTE B. FASCELL, Florida
JOHN CONYERS, JR., Michigan

ELMER W. HENDERSON, Staff Director
EARL F. RIEGER, Professional staff Member
THOMAS J. PAYNE, Professional Staff Member
RICHARD C. BARNES, Professional Staff Member

DAVID E. HOLT, Professional Staff Member
GUADALUPE R. FLORES, Professional Staff Member
CRAIG J. GEHRING, Professional Staff Member

SUSAN E. PHILLIPS, Secretary

E. JEAN GRACE, Secretary

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CONTENTS

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652

Hearings held on-

March 28.

March 29.

April 5.-

April 6_

April 18_

April 19_

Text of H.R. 4263.

Statement of-

Bigge, Carl E., president, National Coal Association ----

Breithaupt, Harry J., Jr., vice president and general counsel, Asso-

ciation of American Railroads; accompanied by E. Parker Brown

II, law department--

Brooks, Hon. Jack, a Representative in Congress from the State of

Texas, and chairman, Legislation and National Security Subcommit-

tee: Opening statement..

Brown, Hon. Clarence J., a Representative in Congress from the State

of Ohio.--

Cohen, David, president, Common Cause; accompanied by David Mas-

selli, issue development staff.

Cohn, Herbert B., representing the Edison Electric Institute; accom-

panied by Justin Karp, director for energy policy programs--
Dingell, Hon. John D., a Representative in Congress from the State

of Michigan.-

Flowers, Hon. Walter, a Representative in Congress from the State

of Alabama..

Flug, James F., director and counsel, Energy Action Committee---
Ikard, Frank N., president and chief executive officer, American Pe-

troleum Institute ---

Jones, Vernon T., chairman, Association of Oil Pipe Lines---

Knight, Jeffrey W., legislative director, Friends of the Earth.

Kobell, Ruth, legislative assistant, National Farmers Union..

McCormack, Hon. Mike, a Representative in Congress from the State

of Washington.--.

McDiarmid, Robert C., attorney at law--

O'Leary, John F., Administrator, Federal Energy Administration;

accompanied by Eric J. Fygi, Acting General Counsel.---
Ottinger, Hon. Richard L., a Representative in Congress from the

State of New York---

Partridge, Robert D., executive vice president and general manager,

National Rural Electric Cooperative Association; accompanied by

Becky Bogard, legislative representative; and David Graham, cor-

porate counsel. --

Radin, Alex, executive director, American Public Power Association ;

accompanied by Larry Hobart, assistant executive director ----

Reichardt, Paul E., American Gas Association ----

Rogers, Walter E., president, Interstate Natural Gas Association.

Schlesinger, James R., Assistant to the President----

Sklar, Steven V., delegate to Maryland General Assembly, representing

the National Conference of State Legislatures---

Snyder, J. R., national legislative director, United Transportation

Union; accompanied by W. G. Mahoney, counsel..

Staats, Elmer B., Comptroller General, U.S. General Accounting Office;

accompanied by Monte E. Canfield, Director, Energy and Minerals

Division ; James Duffus, Assistant Director, Energy and Minerals

Division; and John W. Sprague, Associate Director.

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161

Statement of-Continued

Page Thomas, Gregory A., Washington representative, the Sierra Club---- 515 Udall, Hon. Morris K., a Representative in Congress from the State of Arizona

139 Wheatley, Charles F., Jr., general counsel, American Public Gas Asso

ciation ; accompanied by Arie M. Verrips, executive director--- 345 Wydler, Hon. John W., a Representative in Congress from the State of New York.-

210 Letters, statements, etc., submitted for the record byBagge, Carl E., president, National Coal Association :

April 25, 1977, letter to Chairman Brooks concerning transfers of

functions and resources to the Department of Energy that are
not provided for in H.R. 4263.

706–710 Prepared statement---

714-733 Breithaupt, Harry J., Jr., vice president and general counsel, Association of American Railroads: Prepared statement.

388-394 Brooks, Hon. Jack, a Representative in Congress from the State of

Texas, and chairman, Legislation and National Security Subcom-
mittee : April 14, 1977, letter to Congressman Hubbard from Louis
Strong, president, Kentucky Association of Electric Cooperatives,
Inc., re amendment to delete section 712(h) of H.R. 4263_-

735-736 Bruder, George F., Bruder & Gentile Law Firm: Prepared statement

289-301 Cohen, David, president, Common Cause: Prepared statement--- 329-341 Cohn, Herbert B., representing the Edison Electric Institute: Material relative to the hearings--

498, 500-502 Dingell, Hon. John D., a Representative in Congress from the State of

Michigan: March 25, 1977, letter to James R. Schlesigner concern-
ing programs within jurisdiction of the Subcommittee on Energy

and Power of the Interstate and Foreign Commerce Commitee---- 170-173 Flowers, Hon. Walter, a Representative in Congress from the State of Alabama ; Prepared statement----

191-194 Flug, James F., director and counsel, Energy Action Committee : Prepared statement.-

658-665 Horton, Hon. Frank, a Representative in Congress from the State of New York: Opening statement---

65 Ikard, Frank N., president and chief executive officer, American Petroleum Institute: Prepared statement---

688–698 Jones, Vernon T., chairman, Association of Oil Pipe Lines: Additional material relative to the hearings---

423-451 Knight, Jeffrey W., legislative director, Friends of the Earth : Prepared statement

399-413 McCormack, Hon. Mike, a Representative in Congress from the State of Washington: Prepared statement.-

205–209 McDiarmid, Robert C., attorney at law: Prepared statement.-- 270–286 O'Leary, John F., Administrator, Federal Energy Administration : Prepared statement.-

677-684 Partridge, Robert D., executive vice president and general manager,

National Rural Electric Cooperative Association : Policies and guide-
lines pertaining to applications by rural electric systems for REA

loans and guarantees for generation and transmission facilities --- 311-313 Radin, Alex, executive director, American Public Power Association : Prepared statement..

225-247 Reichardt, Paul E., Arnerican Gas Association: Prepared statement with attachments_

252-265 Rogers, Walter E., president, Interstate Natural Gas Association:

April 20, 1977, letter to Chairman Brooks concerning H.R. 4263_-485-490
March 22, 1977, letter to Members of Congress concerning H.R.
4263

480 481 Schlesinger, James R., Assistant to the President: Information concerning supergrades.

83-84 Submissions to additional subcommittee questions.

91-137 Various charts relative to the hearings.

75-79

Letters, statements, etc.—Continued

Sklar, Steven V., delegate to Maryland General Assembly, represent

ing the National Conference of State Legislatures : Article from the Maryland Law Forum entitled “Political Obsta

Page cies to Energy Self-Sufficiency: Facility Siting Procedures"-- 454-458 Prepared statement.-

461-468 Snyder, J. R., national legislative director, United Transportation

Union : Sundry material relative to the hearings---- 509, 511, 513-514 Staats, Elmer B., Comptroller General, U.S. General Accounting Office: Additional material relative to the hearings..

638-647 Attachments to statement--

596-610 GAO report entitled “Energy Policy Decision making" Organization, and National Energy Goals".

533–587 May 2, 1977, letter to Chairman Brooks concerning information

on GS-16, GS-17, and GS-18 positions for selected Federal
agencies and the proposed Department of Energy -

619-633 Thomas, Gregory A., Washington representative, the Sierra Club: Amendment to bill and explanation.

525-529 Udall, Hon. Morris K., a Representative in Congress from the State of Arizona : Prepared statement.-

151-160 Wheatley, Charles F., Jr., general counsel, American Public Gas Association : Prepared statement----

352-383 Wydler, John W., a Representative in Congress from the State of New York: Prepared statement-

214-218

APPENDIX Correspondence and material submitted for the record-

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