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she could not have been with child, and have gone on to her time without my knowing it. I was at South-end with the Princess. Captain Manby used to visit the Princess there. I make the Princess's bed, and have been in the habit of making it ever since I lived with Her Royal Highness. Another maid, whose name is Ann Bye, assisted with me in making the bed. From what I observed I never had any reason to believe that two persons had slept in the bed; I never saw any particular appearance in it. The linen was washed by Stikeman's wife.
(Signed) MARY WILSON. Sworn at Lord Grenville's House, in Downing-street, the 7th of June, 1806, before us,
(Signed) ERSKINE, GRENVILLE,
SPENCER, ELLEN BOROUGH.
(No. 8.)-The Deposition of Samuel Roberts. I am a footman to the Princess of Wales. I remember the child being taken by the Princess. I never observed any particular appearance of the Princess in that year-nothing that led me to believe that she was with child. Sir Sydney Smith used to visit the Princess at Blackheath. I never saw him alone with the Princess. He never stayed after eleven o'clock. I recollect Mr. Cole once asking me, I think three years ago, whether there were any favourites in the family. I remember saying that Captain Manby and Sir Sydney Smith were frequently at Blackbeath, and dined there oftener than any other persons. I never knew Sir Sydney Smith to stay later than the ladies. I cannot say exactly at what hour he went, but I never remember his staying alone with the Princess.
(Signed) SAMUEL ROBERTS. Sworn at Lord Grenville's House, in Downing-street, the 7th of June, 1806, before us,
(Signed) ERSKINE, GRENVILLE,
only know this from the mother. The mother has since lain-in a second time in Brownlowstreet. I never saw the woman to my knowledge before she came with the petition to the door. I had no particular directions by the Princess to procure a child; I thought it better to take the child of persons of good character than the child of a pauper. Nothing led me, from the appearance of the Princess, to suppose that she was with child; but from her shape it is difficult to judge when she is with child. When she was with child of the Princess Charlotte, I should not have known it when she was far advanced in her time, if I had not been told it. Sir Sydney Smith, at one time, visited very frequently at Montague House, two or three times a week. At the time the Princess was altering her rooms in the Turkish style, Sir Sydney Smith's visits were very frequent. The Princess consulted him upon them. Mr. Morell was the uphol sterer; Sir Sydney Smith came frequently alone. He staid alone with the Princess sometimes till eleven o'clock at night. He has been there till twelve o'clock and after, I believe, alone with the Princess. The Princess is of that lively vivacity, that she makes herself familiar with Gentlemen, which prevented my being struck with his staying so late. I do not believe that at that time any other Gentleman visited the Princess so frequently or stayed so late. I have seen the Princess, when they were alone, sitting with Sir Sydney Smith on the same sofa, in the blueroom. I had access to the blue-room at all times. There was an inner room which opened into the blue-room. When that room was not lighted up, I did not go into it; I did not consider that I had a right to go into it. I had no idea on what account I was brought here. I did not know that the Princess's conduct was questioned, or ques tionable. I was with the Princess at Ramsgate; when she was at East Cliff, Capt. Manby was very frequently there; went away as late at night as eleven o'clock. I do not remember Fanny Lloyd being called up any morning to make breakfast for the Princess. I did not like Captain Manby's coming so often and staying so late, and I was uneasy at it. I remember a piece of plate, a silver lamp, being sent to Captain Manby; I saw it in Sicard's possession; he told me, it was for Captain Manby, and he had a letter to send with it. I have never seen Captain Manby at the Princess's, at Ramsgate, before nine o'clock in the morning, but I have heard he has been there carlier. I had never any suspicion of there being any thing improper, either from the frequent vi sits of Captain Manby, or from his conduct. I was at Catherington with the Princess; she used to go out generally in her own chaise. I think I have once or twice seen her go out with Mr. Hood, in his one-horse chaise; they have been out for two hours, or two hours and a half together. I believe only a day or two elapsed between the time of the child being first brought, and being then brought back again, and left with the Princess. I am sure the child was not weaned after it had been first brought. I do not recollect any Gentleman ever sleeping in the house. I do not remember Lawrence, the painter, ever sleeping there. The Princess seems very fond of the child; it is always called William Austin.
(No. 9.)The Deposition of Thomas Stikeman. I have been Page to the Princess of Wales ever since she has been in England. When I first saw the child who is with the Princess, it is about four years ago. Her Royal Highness had a strong desire to have an infant, which I and all the house knew. I heard there was a woman who had twins, one of which the Princess was desirous to have, but the parents would not part with it. A woman came to the door with a petition to get her husband replaced in the dockyard, who had been removed; she had a child with her; I took the child, I believe, and shewed it to Mrs. Sander. I then returned the child to the woman, and made inquiries after the father, and afterwards desired the woman to bring the child again to the house, which she did. The child was taken to the Princess; after the Princess had seen it, she desired the woman to take it again, and bring it back in a few days, and Mrs. Sander was desired to provide linen for it. Within a few days the child was brought again by the mother, and was left, and has been with the Princess ever since. I do not recollect the child had any mark, but, upon reflection, I do recollect that the mother said he was marked with elder wine on the hand. The father of the child, whose name is Austin, lives with me at Pimlico. My wife is a laundress, and washed the linen of the Prince. Austin is employed to turn a mangle for me. The child was born in Brownlow-street, and it was baptized there; but I
(Signed) THOS. STIKEMAN. Sworn at Lord Grenville's House, in Downing-street, the 7th day of June, 1806, before us, (Signed) ERSKINE, GRENVILLE, SPENCER, ELLENBOROUGH.
(No. 10.)-The Deposition of John Sicard. I have lived seven years with the Princess of Wales, am house-steward, and have been in that situation from the end of six months after I first lived with Her Royal Highness. I remember the child who is now with the Princess of Wales being brought there; it was about five months old when it was brought, it is about four years ago, just before we went to Ramsgate. I had not the least suspicion of the object of my being brought here. I had opportunity of seeing the Princess frequently; I waited on her at dinner and supper; I never observed that the Princess had the appearance of being with child: I think it was hardly possible that she should have been with child without my perceiving it. Sir Sydney Smith used to visit very frequently at Montague House, in 1802, with Sir John and Lady Douglas. He was very often, I believe, alone with the Princess, and so was Mr. Canning and other Gentlemen. I cannot say that I ever suspected Sir Sydney Smith of any improper conduct with the Princess. I never had any suspicion of the Princess acting improperly with Sir Sydney Smith, or any other Gentleman. I remember Captain Manby visiting at Montague House. The Princess of Wales did not pay for the expense of fitting up his cabin, but the linen furniture was ordered by me, by direction of the Princess, of Newberry and Jones. It was put by Newberry and Jones in the Princess's bill, and was paid for with the rest of the bill by Miss Heyman. (Signed) JOHN SICARD. Sworn at Lord Grenville's House, in Downing-street, the 7th day of June, 1806, before us, (Signed) ERSKINE, GRENVILLE,
(No. 11.)-The Deposition of Charlotte Sander. I have lived with the Princess of Wales eleven years. I am a native of Brunswick, and came with the Princess from Brunswick. The Princess has a little boy living with her under her protection; he had a mark on his hand, but it is worn off; I first saw him four years ago, in the Autumn. The father and mother of the child are still alive; I have seen them both; the father worked in the Dock-yard at Deptford, but has now lost the use of his limbs; the father's name is Austin. The mother brought the child to the Princess when he was four months old; I was present when the child was brought to the Princess; she was in her own room up stairs, when the child was brought; she came out, and took the child herself. I understood that the child was expected before it was brought. I am sure that I never saw the child in the house be fore it appeared to be four months old. The Princess was not ill or indisposed in the autumn of 180%. I was dresser to Her Royal Highness; she could not be ill or indisposed without my knowing it. I am sure that she was not confined to her room, or to her bed in that autumn; there was not, to my knowledge, any other child in the house; it was hardly possible there could have been a child there without my knowing it. I have no recollection that the Princess had grown bigger in the year 1802 than usual; I am sure the Princess was not pregnant; being her dresser, I must have seen it, if she was. I solemnly and positively swear I have no reason to know or believe that the Princess of Wales has been at any time pregnant during the time I have lived with
Her Royal Highness at Montague House. Imay have said to Cole, that the Princess was grown much thinner, but I do not recollect that I did. I never heard any body say any thing about the Princess being pregnant till I came here to-day. I did not expect to be asked any question to-day respecting the Princess being pregnant. Nobody came over to the Princess from Germany, in the autumn of 1802, to my knowledge. Her Royal Highness was generally blooded twice a year, but not lately. I never had any reason to suppose that the Princess received the visits of any Gentleman at improper hours. Sir Sydney Smith visited her frequently, and almost daily. He was there very late, sometimes till two o'clock in the morning. I never saw Sir Sydney Smith in a room alone with the Princess late at night. I never saw any thing which led me to suppose that Sir Sydney Smith was on a very familiar footing with the Princess of Wales. I attended the Princess of Wales to Southend. She had two houses, No. 9 and No. 8. I knew Captain Manby; he commanded the Africaine; he visited the Princess while his ship was there; he was frequently with the Princess. I do not know or believe, and I have no reason to believe, that Captain Manby stayed till very late hours with the Princess. I never suspected that there was any improper familiarity between them. I never expressed to any body a wish that Capt. Manby's visits were not so frequent. If the Princess had company, I was never present. The Princess was at Ramsgate in 1803; I have seen Captain Manby there frequently. He came to the Princess's house to dinner; he never stayed till late at night at the Princess's house. I was in Devonshire with the Princess lately; there was no one officer that she saw when she was in Devonshire more than the rest. I never heard from the Princess that she apprehended her conduct was questioned. When I was brought here I thought I might be questioned respecting the Princess's conduct, and I was sorry to come; I don't know why I thought so; I never saw any thing in the conduct of the Princess, while I lived with her, which would have made me uneasy if I had been her husband. When I was at Southend, I dined in the Steward's room. I can't say whether I ever heard any body in the Steward's room say any thing about the Captain (meaning Captain Manby); it is so long ago, I may have forgot it; I have seen Captain Manby alone with the Princess, at No. 9, in the drawing-room, at Southend; I have seen it only once or twice; it was at two or three o'clock in the afternoon, and never later. I slept in a room next to the Princess, in the house No. 9, at Southend; I never saw Captain Manby in any part of that house but the drawing-room; I have no reason to believe he was in any other room in the house, I was at Catherington with the Princess; she was at Mr. Hood's house; I never saw any familiarity between her and Mr. Hood; I have seen her drive out in Mr. Hoods carriage with him alone; it was a gig; they used to be absent for several hours; a servant of the Princess attended them; I have delivered packets by the order of the Princess, which she gave me, sealed up, to Sicard, to be by him forwarded to Captain Manby. The birth-day of the child who lives with the Princess is the 11th of July, as his me ther told me; she says that he was christened at Deptford. The child had a mark on the hand, the mother told me that it was from red wine; I
believe the child came to the Princess in No-
(No. 12.)-The Deposition of Sophia Austin.
Princess of Wales; I am the mother of it; I was
[Extract from Lady Douglas's Deposition.]
Sidmouth, 21st June, 1806. My dear Lord,-In obedience to your commands, I lost no time in communicating to Lady Willoughby the important subject of your private letter, dated the 20th instant, and I have the honour of enclosing a letter to your Lordship from Lady Willoughby.I have the honour, &c.
ble, the truth of this fact, I am to request that It being material to ascertain, as far as possiyour Lordship will have the goodness to desire circumstance in any manner relative thereto (if Lady Willoughby to put down in writing every It was marked in the right hand with red wine. any such there be) of which her Ladyship has any My husband was a labourer in the Dock-yard at recollection; and also to apprize me, for His Majesty's information, whether at any time, during Deptford. When peace was proclaimed a numthe course of the above-mentioned year, Lady ber of the workmen were discharged, and my Willoughby observed any such alteration in the husband was one who was discharged. I went Princess's shape, or any other circumstances, as to the Princess with a petition on a Saturday, to might induce her Ladyship to believe that Her try to get my husband restored. I lived at that Royal Highness was then pregnant.—I am, &c. time at Deptford-new-row, No. 7, with a person of the name of Bearblock; he was a milkman. The day I went to the Princess with the petition was a fortnight before the 6th of November. Mr. Bennet, a baker, in New-street, was our dealer, and I took the child to Mr. Bennet's, when I went to receive my husband's wages, every week, from the time I left the Hospital till I carried the child to the Princess. I knew Mr. Stikeman only by having seen him once before, when I went to apply for a letter to Brownlow-street Hospital. When I went to Montague-house, I desired Mr. Stikeman to present my petition. He said they were denied to do such things, but seeing me with a baby, he could do no less. He then took the child from me, and was a long time gone; he then brought me back the child, and brought half a guinea, which the Ladies sent me. He said, if the child had been younger, he thought he could have got it taken care of for me, but desired that I would come up again; I went up again on the Monday following, and I saw Mr. Stikeman; Mr. Stikeman afterwards came several times to us, and appointed me to take the child to Montague-house on the 5th of November, but it rained all day, and I did not take it. Mr. Stikeman came down to me on the Saturday, the 6th of November, and I took the child on that day to the Princess's house. The Princess was out, I waited till she returned; she saw the child, and asked its age. I went down into the coffee room, and they gave me some arrow-root to wean the child, for I was suckling the child at this time, and when I had weaned the child, I was to bring it and leave it with the Princess. I did wean the child, and brought it to the Princess's house on the 15th of November, and left it there, and it has been with the Princess ever since. I saw the child last Whit-Monday, and I swear that it is my child.
(Signed) SOPHIA AUSTIN,
(Signed) ERSKINE, SPENCER,
My Lord,-In obedience to the command contained in your Lordship's letter, communicated to me by Lord Gwydir, I have the honour to inform you, that I have no recollection whatever of the fact stated to have taken place during a breakfast at Whitehall, in May or June, 1802; nor do I bear in mind any particular circumstances relative to Her Royal Highness the Princess of Wales, at the period to which you allude.I have the honour, &c.
June 21, 1806.
Extract from the Register of the Births and Bap-
Thomas, of Richard and Eliz. Austin, 20
William, of Samuel and Sophia Austin, 15 The above are the only two entries under the name of Austin, about the period in question, and were extracted by me. No description of the children is preserved.
CHARLES WATKIN WILLIAMS WYNN. June 23, 1806.
(No. 17.)-The Deposition of Elizabeth Gosden. I am the wife of Francis Gosden, who is a servant of the Princess of Wales, and has lived with Her Royal Highness eleven years. In November, 1802, I was sent for to the Princess's house N
Supplement to No. 12, Vol. XXIII.-Price 1s.
to look after a little child. I understood that
(Signed) ELIZABETH GOSDEN.
(Signed) ERSKINE, SPENCER,
(No. 19.)-The Deposition of Thomas Edmeades, of
(Signed) THOMAS EDMEADES.
(No. 18.)-The Deposition of Betty Townley. I lived at Charlton sixteen years, and till within the last two years I was a laundress, and used to wash linen for the Princess of Wales's family. After the Princess left Charlton, and went to Blackheath, I used to go over to Blackheath to fetch the linen to wash. I have had linen from the Princess's house the same as other Ladies, I mean, that there were such appear ances on it as might arise from natural causes to which women are subject. I never washed the Princess's own bed linen, but once or twice occasionally. I recollect one bundle of linen once coming, which I thought rather more marked than usual. They told me the Princess had been bled with leeches, and it dirted the linen more. The servants told me so, but I don't remember who the servants were that told me so. I recollect once I came to town and left the linen with my daughter to wash; I looked at the clothes slowly before I went, and counted them, and my daughter and a woman she employed with her, washed them, while I was in town. I thought when I looked them over, that there might be something more than usual; my opinion was, that it was from a miscarriage, the linen had the appearance of a miscarriage. I believed it at the time. They were fine damask napkins, and some of them marked with I am a Surgeon at Greenwich, have been in a little red crown in the corner, and some with-partnership with Mr. Edmeades since 1800; beout marks. I might mention it to Fanny Lloyd. I don't recollect when this was, but it must be more than two years and a half ago, for I did not wash for the Princess's family but very little for the last six months. Mary Wilson used to give me the linen, and I believe it was she who told me the Princess was bled with leeches, but the appearance of the linen which I have spoken of before was different from that which it was said was stained by bleeding with leeches. I remember the child coming, I used to wash the linen for the child; and Mrs. Gosden, who nursed the child, used to pay me for it. I kept a book in which I entered the linen I washed. I am not sure whether I have it still, but if I have, it is in a chest at my daughter's, at Charlton, and I will produce it if I can find it.
(Signed) B. TOWNLEY.
(Signed) ERSKINE, SPENCER, GRENVILLE, ELLENBOROUGH.
(No. 20.)--The Deposition of Samuel Gillam Mills, of Greenwich, Surgeon.
fore he was my partner I attended the Princess of Wales's family from the time of her coming to Blackheath from Charlton; I was appointed by the Princess her Surgeon in April, 1801, by a written appointment, and from that time I never attended Her Royal Highness or any of the servants in my medical capacity, except that I once attended Miss Gouch, and once Miss Millfield; there was a child brought to the Princess while I attended her; I was called upon to examine the child; it was a girl. It must have been in 1801, or thereabouts. The child afterwards had the measles, and I attended her. When first I saw the child I think it must have been about ten months old; it must have been prior to April, 1801. I understood that the child was taken through charity. I remember that there was a female servant who attended in the coffee-room. I never said to that woman, or to any other person, that the Princess was with child, or looked as if she was with child; and I never thought so, or surmised any thing of the Kind. I was once sent for by Her Royal
Highness to bleed her; I was not at home, and
(Signed) SAM. GILLAM MILLS.
(Signed) ERSKINE, SPENCER, GRENVILLE, ELLENBOROUGH. A true Copy, J. Becket.
(No. 21.)-The Deposition of Harriet Fitzgerald.
with him when he was abroad. I don't recol-
(Signed) HARRIET FITZGERALD.
ERSKINE, SPENCER, GRENVILLE, ELLENBOROUGH. A true copy, J. Becket.
Whitehall, July 1, 1806.. My Lord,-The extreme importance of the business on which I have before troubled your Lordship and Lady Willoughby, makes it the indispensable duty of the persons to whom His Majesty has intrusted the inquiry, further to request that her Ladyship will have the goodness to return in writing, distinct and separate answers to the enclosed Queries. They beg leave to add, that in the discharge of the trust committed to them, they have been obliged to examine upon oath the several persons to whose testimony they have thought it right to have recourse on this occasion. They have been unwilling to give Lady Willoughby the trouble of so long a journey for that purpose, well knowing the full reliance which may be placed on every thing which shall be stated by her Ladyship in this form. But on her return to town it may probably be judged necessary, for the sake of uniformity in this most important proceeding, that she should be so good as to confirm on oath,