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BALDWIN, BLACK, AND COLLINS NOMINATIONS

MONDAY, JUNE 28, 1965

U.S. SENATE,

COMMITTEE ON COMMERCE,
Washington, D.C.

The committee met, pursuant to notice, at 10:20 a.m., in room 5110, New Senate Office Building, the Honorable Warren G. Magnuson chairman of the committee) presiding.

The CHAIRMAN. The committee will come to order.

At our hearing this morning, we will take up the nomination of he Honorable LeRoy Collins, of Florida, to be Under Secretary of Commerce, succeeding Franklin D. Roosevelt, Jr.

Governor Collins, as he has continued to be known, has been for the past year the Director of the Community Relations Service in the Department of Commerce, which grew out of the Civil Rights Act of

964.

(The biographical sketch of Mr. Collins follows:)

BIOGRAPHICAL SKETCH OF LEROY COLLINS

LeRoy Collins was born March 10, 1909, in Tallahassee, Fla. He attended the ublic schools in Florida and Cumberland University, Cumberland, Tenn., receivng his LL.B. degree in 1931.

He was admitted to the Florida bar in 1931 and practiced law in Tallahassee hereafter. From 1934 to 1940, he was a representative in the Florida Legislature rom Leon County, following which he served several terms in the Florida State enate.

He served as Governor of the State of Florida for the 6-year period 1955-60. While Governor, he was elected chairman of the National Governors Conference nd the Southern Governors Conference; and he also served as chairman of the Southern Regional Education Board. In 1961, he was named president of the National Association of Broadcasters and served in that position until July 1964. Governor Collins was appointed by the President and confirmed by the Senate n July 1964 to be Director of the Community Relations Service, Department of Commerce, and is presently serving in this position.

He has also served as Chairman of the National Public Advisory Committee n Area Redevelopment; a member of the National Advisory Council of the Peace Corps; a member of the Honor Corps, National Conference of Christians and ews; and a member of the Committee on Goals for Higher Education in the South, 1961-62.

He is a trustee of Randolph Macon Woman's College, Lynchburg, Va., and a ember of the Board of Governors of the National Cathedral School in Vashington.

Since 1931 he has been a member of the Florida bar, the Arkansas bar, and he Tennessee bar, and the American Bar Association.

Governor Collins is married to the former Mary Call Darby and they have our children-LeRoy, Jr., a lieutenant in the U.S. Navy, and daughters Jane, Mary Call, and Darby.

He maintains his home in Tallahassee, Fla., and also has a Washington resilence at 3116 P Street NW.

Staff counsel assigned to this hearing: Gerald B. Grinstein.

The CHAIRMAN. We shall begin with Governor Collins.

We have here our colleague, the distinguished Senator from Flori Senator Holland.

Senator Holland, I presume you would like to introduce the nominee to the committee.

STATEMENT OF HON. SPESSARD L. HOLLAND, U.S. SENATOR FROX THE STATE OF FLORIDA

Senator HOLLAND. Mr. Chairman, I hardly think it is necessary for me to introduce Governor Collins to the committee. I do want to not that both Senators from Florida actively supported Governor Collis for the position in Community Relations Service which he well vacate by coming to be Under Secretary of the Department of COLmerce. We supported him actively and most cordially there and we do the same thing here.

I want the record to show that my distinguished colleague, Senator Smathers, is over at the Finance Committee in an executive meeting on a bill that is of material consideration to our own State of Florid and, therefore, could not be here. He asked me to speak for himse as well as for me.

I think it is hardly necessary to remind this committee that Govern Collins has had a long and distinguished career in public service ar in private business. He was a member of the House of Represent tives of the Florida Legislature for several terms, acquitted himse there as one of its most effective members, then a member of the State senate, with the same kind of distinguished career.

A distinguished career followed in the Navy of the United States during World War II, following which he served as Governor and up to this time is the only 6-year Governor of our State, at least in any modern times-served 2 years by election of the people to fill out the term of a deceased Governor, the Honorable Dan McCarty, and ther serving 4 years after election on his own for a 4-year term. His tert. there was such as to give him high honors. He was chairman of the Southern Governors Conference and then chairman of the Nations Governors Conference.

Following that, he was tapped by industry to be the head of the National Association of Broadcasters in radio and TV. I think we all know that his service there was a distinguished service and from that, he went when called by the President, to serve in this highly d ficult position which he is now completing the first year of service the Community Relations post. I think that Governor Collins has made such a record of distinguished service as an administrator and s as a lawmaker and as an administrator in a highly responsible private position in private enterprise as to fully merit the approval not on of the Senators and citizens of Florida, but also of this committee and the confirmation of the Senate. I appear for the two Florida Senators to urge his speedy confirmation.

I shall be glad now to yield to Governor Collins, but I do want the record to show affirmatively the strong, affirmative support of both Senators from Florida given to Governor Collins, because we think he has done a remarkable job and will continue to do so in this new position of high responsibility.

The CHAIRMAN. Thank you, Senator Holland.
Any questions of Senator Holland?

Now, there are two Under Secretaries, one for Transportation and the other, which has the general title of Under Secretary of Commerce. Under the provisions of the law, the Under Secretary of Commerce, of course, serves as Secretary in the absence, in the case of sickness or such as that, of the Secretary of Commerce, and he serves as principal Deputy for the Secretary of Commerce.

In other words, you are right-hand man of the Secretary of Commerce. This is an agency that has many and diverse responsibilities with which this committee is quite familiar and we could go into a great number of things involving your duties down there. But I think that what the chairman is interested in right now-and I am sure other members of the committee are too-is your ideas or further suggestions on the grave responsibility of the Secretary at this particular time on our international balance-of-payments deficits?

STATEMENT OF LEROY COLLINS, NOMINEE

Mr. COLLINS. Mr. Chairman, could I first express appreciation to Senator Holland for the statement he made?

The CHAIRMAN. Yes.

Mr. COLLINS. We left out one thing I would like to add to my record. While I was a member of the State senate, I served as floor leader for the Governor's program, a position which I have alwaysSenator LAUSCHE. What Governor?

Mr. COLLINS. Spessard L. Holland.
Senator LAUSCHE. This man here?

Mr. COLLINS. This man here. That is why I have such a record in Florida, because he was such an able Governor, one of whom the whole State is very proud. I appreciate what he said here.

I think, Mr. Chairman, that you have certainly generalized the feeling of responsibility of the Under Secretary which I fully share, so I would no more than say I agree with your whole summation of that in a general way.

So far as the balance-of-payments problem is concerned, I do not pretend to have any real professional, intimate knowledge of that. My work in the Community Relations Service has not given me an opportunity to have close association with the broader programs of the Department of Commerce. I am familiar, though, with the fact that this is a matter of tremendous concern and commanding the great energies and interest of the Secretary. I feel in association with the other Cabinet officials who are involved and with the President and with the committees of the Congress, we are making a determined effort to bring this situation in better line with the economic stability of our Nation. I would certainly expect that as Under Secretary I should lend the Secretary every possible support that I can in consummation of the voluntary program that is now underway. I think this voluntary program is one of a very significant pattern, because there has been a great deal of pressure, of course, upon the Government to make more stringent rules and to impose specific recommendations on the matter of interpretation of the law. But both the President and the Secretary and the Secretary of the Treasury have all been determined to work this out on the basis of voluntary

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