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DEPARTMENTS OF LABOR, HEALTH AND HUMAN
SERVICES, EDUCATION, AND RELATED AGENCIES
APPROPRIATIONS FOR 1985

SUBCOMMITTEE ON THE DEPARTMENTS OF LABOR, HEALTH AND
HUMAN SERVICES, EDUCATION, AND RELATED AGENCIES

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HENRY A. NEIL, Jr., FREDERICK F. PFLUGER, ROBERT L. KNISELY, MICHAEL A. STEPHENS, and
BETTILOU TAYLOR, Subcommittee Staff

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SUBCOMMITTEE ON THE DEPARTMENTS OF LABOR, HEALTH AND
HUMAN SERVICES, EDUCATION, AND RELATED AGENCIES

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HENRY A. NEIL, JR., FREDERICK F. PFLUger, Robert L. KNISELY, MICHAEL A. STEPHENS, and

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COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS

JAMIE L. WHITTEN, Mississippi, Chairman

EDWARD P. BOLAND, Massachusetts
WILLIAM H. NATCHER, Kentucky

NEAL SMITH, Iowa

JOSEPH P. ADDABBO, New York
CLARENCE D. LONG, Maryland
SIDNEY R. YATES, Illinois
DAVID R. OBEY, Wisconsin
EDWARD R. ROYBAL, California
LOUIS STOKES, Ohio
TOM BEVILL, Alabama

BILL CHAPPELL, JR., Florida

BILL ALEXANDER, Arkansas

JOHN P. MURTHA, Pennsylvania
BOB TRAXLER, Michigan

JOSEPH D. EARLY, Massachusetts
CHARLES WILSON, Texas

LINDY (MRS. HALE) BOGGS, Louisiana
NORMAN D. DICKS, Washington
MATTHEW F. MCHUGH, New York
WILLIAM LEHMAN, Florida
JACK HIGHTOWER, Texas

MARTIN OLAV SABO, Minnesota
JULIAN C. DIXON, California

VIC FAZIO, California

W. G. (BILL) HEFNER, North Carolina

LES AUCOIN, Oregon

DANIEL K. AKAKA, Hawaii

WES WATKINS, Oklahoma

WILLIAM H. GRAY III, Pennsylvania

BERNARD J. DWYER, New Jersey

WILLIAM R. RATCHFORD, Connecticut

BILL BONER, Tennessee

STENY H. HOYER, Maryland

BOB CARR, Michigan

ROBERT J. MRAZEK, New York

SILVIO O. CONTE, Massachusetts
JOSEPH M. McDADE, Pennsylvania
JACK EDWARDS, Alabama
JOHN T. MYERS, Indiana

J. KENNETH ROBINSON, Virginia
CLARENCE E. MILLER, Ohio
LAWRENCE COUGHLIN, Pennsylvania
C. W. BILL YOUNG, Florida
JACK F. KEMP, New York
RALPH REGULA, Ohio
GEORGE M. O'BRIEN, Illinois
VIRGINIA SMITH, Nebraska
ELDON RUDD, Arizona
CARL D. PURSELL, Michigan
MICKEY EDWARDS, Oklahoma
BOB LIVINGSTON, Louisiana
BILL GREEN, New York
TOM LOEFFLER, Texas
JERRY LEWIS, California
JOHN EDWARD PORTER, Illinois
HAROLD ROGERS, Kentucky

KEITH F. MAINLAND, Clerk and Staff Director

84-622014

DEPARTMENTS

OF LABOR, HEALTH AND

HUMAN SERVICES, AND EDUCATION, AND RELATED AGENCIES APPROPRIATIONS FOR 1985

WEDNESDAY, APRIL 4, 1984.

DEPARTMENT OF LABOR

TESTIMONY OF THE SECRETARY OF LABOR

WITNESSES

HON. RAYMOND J. DONOVAN, SECRETARY OF LABOR

THOMAS C. KOMAREK, ASSISTANT SECRETARY FOR ADMINISTRATION AND MANAGEMENT

MARY ANN WYRSCH, DIRECTOR, OFFICE OF BUDGET

OPENING STATEMENTS

Mr. NATCHER. The committee will be in order.

At this time, we take up the budget request for the Department of Labor for the fiscal year 1985, and we have before the committee our Secretary of Labor, Raymond J. Donovan.

Mr. Donovan, it is a pleasure to have you back before the committee this morning. It has always been a pleasure to have you come before our committee to justify your budget request.

As you know, on October 31 of last year, the President signed our appropriation bill for the Departments of Labor, Health and Human Services, and Education, for the fiscal year 1984. This was the first time, Mr. Secretary, in five years that this appropriation bill had been enacted into law, and this in spite of the fact that the appropriation bill exceeded the President's budget request by several billion dollars.

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At the time that the President had to make a decision on this matter, Mr. Conte, the ranking minority member on this subcommittee and on the full Committee on Appropriations, and I, together with other members of the subcommittee, talked to the people downtown, explaining to them where the increases were, saying to them that these increases were in programs that mean so much to the people.

We had stayed under the budget resolution, and the President signed the bill. Mr. Secretary, we appreciated it.

We believe on this subcommittee that this bill is too important to put under a continuing resolution. It ought to stay in the appropriation process and not under a continuing resolution. It makes it difficult for you as Secretary of your Department, and for all the other people that are in the government that are under a continu

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